Which Implants?

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Hi Amal -

I'm a big fan of your work. I'm getting ready to get my RFID 
implants and wanted to know what you would get if you were doing it today? Would 
you sitck with the EM4102 and the HITAG 2048S?

Thanks for the input! 

-Eldon

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eldon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 25 February 2010 Status: Offline Points: 10	Post Options Post Reply Quote eldon Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Which Implants? Posted: 25 February 2010 at 7:54am
	Hi Amal - I'm a big fan of your work. I'm getting ready to get my RFID implants and wanted to know what you would get if you were doing it today? Would you sitck with the EM4102 and the HITAG 2048S? Thanks for the input! -Eldon

amal Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 22 November 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2062	Post Options Post Reply Quote amal Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 February 2010 at 9:43am
	I guess that depends on what your primary applications will be. I can tell you my EM4102 tag gets way more action than my HITAG S does, but it's good to have the HITAG because I can set up secure applications if I want to. Ideally, if I had to do it over again, I'd still get both tags ;) Keep in mind that you can also program the HITAG to basically emulate an EM4102, but in doing so you can't use the secure features on the tag, so you get flexibility with a HITAG but you can only use one feature set at a time.
	Amal ;) www.amal.net

eldon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 25 February 2010 Status: Offline Points: 10	Post Options Post Reply Quote eldon Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 February 2010 at 10:07am
	Great, thanks for the feedback! I was leaning towards both tags so this confirms it for me.

amal Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 22 November 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2062	Post Options Post Reply Quote amal Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 February 2010 at 5:39pm
	cool man. glad I could help. post some pix if/when you get the procedure done :) if you run into trouble finding medically trained assistance, check this post and/or browse other posts on the forum... there are several regarding the difficulty many have in getting a doctor or piercing professional to perform the procedure.
	Amal ;) www.amal.net

eldon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 25 February 2010 Status: Offline Points: 10	Post Options Post Reply Quote eldon Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 February 2010 at 12:38pm
	I ordered the implants and parts for the door project today. I think I have someone lined up to do the implants too. I'll post pics as soon as I get it done.

eldon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 25 February 2010 Status: Offline Points: 10	Post Options Post Reply Quote eldon Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 March 2010 at 8:38pm
	So I was just thinking....if the HITAG S can emulate an EM4102 would it make more sense to implant 2 HITAG modules? I could emulate EM4102 with one of them and native HITAG with the other. What do you think? I already ordered 2 of both anyway... -Eldon

amal Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 22 November 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2062	Post Options Post Reply Quote amal Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 March 2010 at 8:44pm
	if you have the right reader gear to enable you to program the tags properly, then i suppose it makes sense. for most people who want to get in at the ground floor for cheap, the EM4102 will suffice.
	Amal ;) www.amal.net

amal Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 22 November 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2062	Post Options Post Reply Quote amal Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 March 2010 at 9:23am
	Hey there, sorry I didn't see this message until now! I would still get both. I use the EM4102 for a lot of cheap/simple projects that don't require a lot of security. The HITAG S can be programmed to emulate an EM4102 but it cannot do that AND support encryption features at the same time, so its a wash if you want to use an implant with both types of setups. You might be asked "why not just use the secure HITAG and make all projects secure?" ... the answer to that is cost and complexity. You can find cheap EM4102 readers that integrate very easily into tons of project, but readers that support HITAG S encryption are more spendy and are more difficult to use in projects.
	Amal ;) www.amal.net

eldon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 25 February 2010 Status: Offline Points: 10	Post Options Post Reply Quote eldon Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 May 2010 at 1:24pm
	Finally got the implants in today! Will post pics tonight...

amal Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 22 November 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2062	Post Options Post Reply Quote amal Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 May 2010 at 2:39pm
	Nice! What did you end up getting? Sounds like you got both?
	Amal ;) www.amal.net