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 Topic: RFID motorcycle starterPosted: 26 November 2006 at 3:57pm |
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Can I do this with a 12v remote starter for a car?
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amal
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Posted: 26 November 2006 at 4:57pm |
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For the bike I just used relays and put them in parallel with the key ignition switch. I also modified the engine run switch by replacing its function with an additional relay and using the switch instead to control power to the RFID reader so the reader would only power up if the engine run switch is on. This stopped the bike battery from being run down by the RFID reader during long periods sitting in the garage. The end result is that you can use the engine run switch and normal key as expected, or you can just flip on the engine run switch and pass an authorized RFID tag across the reader antenna and it would emulate the key. In either event, if you flipped the engine run switch to the off position, the engine would cut out as expected. There was a trick to getting my 2005 Hayabusa working though... it has a special wire that is not included in any shop manuals that has a special resistance, and if you try to "hotwire" the bike, it won't work. I had to figure that one out myself since nobody... not even the mechanics at the shop who work on these bikes all day knew about it. So, if you plan on creating an RFID based authentication parallel to the normal key, measure resistance across all possible connections coming out of the key ignition switch to test for resistances. Amal ;) |
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Posted: 29 November 2006 at 1:42pm |
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Here's a bad quality MP4 movie of the process of powering up the bike I took a while back with my cell phone (really bad quality).
http://amal.net/blog/links/2006-05-21 - Demo of Amal Graafstra's RFID enabled motorcycle.mp4 Right now the bike is in storage for the winter, but when I get time to drag it out again I'll post a better quality video. |
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Posted: 13 June 2008 at 1:06am |
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Hello, I was reading the post about the bike and I would like to ask if you could give some advice about project I have just started.
The idea of the project is to turn on/off warning light at the top of forklift when I am about 5 meters or less to it. The reader will identify my presence and gives input to the solid state contact relay which will turn the light on and also turn it off. I am considering using RFID so I will be carrying the tag somehow with me. I am using RF600 from Siemens which is available to me for testing purposes but I think it is not practicable in my forklift application since it takes lot of space and power, I think mobile reader will be better for this application How would I be able to get the reader to give the input to the relay? I would appreciate it if you could advice me on this. I am trying to keep the cost as low as possible. Joewiz |
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Posted: 14 June 2008 at 6:17pm |
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Hmm... is the goal to turn on the light when you are near and turn off the light when you have left the area? Active RFID might be a way to do that. The best thing I can think of would be to buy a digital guard dog RFID system designed for a motorcycle and alter it to work with your light application. It should be easy because this system is designed right into an automotive relay, making simple on/off applications a snap! It's not cheap, but it's far more practical than a big active RFID system and the normally bulky active RFID tags that go with them.
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joewiz
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Posted: 22 June 2008 at 10:35pm |
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Hi! Thanks for the reply, and Yes, the goal is to turn the light when I am near and not only me but other people I am working with. So the system should be able to identify only those of us. I am not sure if digital guard dog offers the possibility to have more RFID transponders to operate with the same one reader.
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Posted: 28 June 2008 at 10:12am |
Hmm, have you looked into the guard dog system? How many tags would you need to associate with a single forklift? How many forklifts are you talking about enabling with this kind of tech? If you have a budget though, I suppose there are plenty of active systems around that you could use. I just don't know of any that wouldn't require a host of some kind (PC or microcontroller) and some coding. If you don't have a budget, you might be able to build something for cheap that isn't necessarily RFID, but it would use RF. There are many transceivers out there that are typically used with microcontrollers to communicate data between controllers/sensors/PCs. The one hurdle I can think of that might be a problem is that the part of the device you carry on your person probably won't be that convenient to carry/wear around... but it could be done. Send me a PM if you feel like funding a little bit of development for this project. |
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Posted: 14 December 2010 at 3:57am |
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thanks alot for this link AMAL...
http://amal.net/blog/links/2006-05-21 - Demo of Amal Graafstra's RFID enabled motorcycle.mp4 it worked great for me it really looks u got magic hands to solve and suggest for problems  |
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Posted: 24 February 2011 at 2:23am |
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So, i've read through everything, and I'm about to try this project out on my R1 (anyone know off-hand if it's also got some odd resistance wire that I should know about?).
My question is about range, I can't seem to find anything on increasing it. For me, the main purpose of rfid is so that I can just walk up and press the ignition - using a fob like a key is really much the same as just using the key, whick I'm trying to avoid. Any idea what I would need to do to increase the range to say, .5 - 1 meter?
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Posted: 05 January 2012 at 10:04am |
For that you will need to go active RFID. Check out www.digitalguarddog.com - they have a commercial product that will do this for you.
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